12
Mar
09

Am I Fireproof Yet?

 

As you may recall from an earlier post, my wife has been on a big “Couple’s” class kick.  We attended a movie / seminar called Fireproof, about 6 weeks ago.  Since that time, we have been attending a couples gathering once a week to review the movie.  This class (listed under the guise of a couples get-together) has spent the last 5 sessions reviewing individual sections of the movie and answering questions found within a “Fireproofing Your Marriage Workbook”. 

 

Now, I have to admitted that the movie was  a great idea.  I went into it begrudgingly, but found it to be a very good investment in our marriage.  Having said that, I’m starting to go through a slow death. In short, the group gatherings on this same topic are starting to wear on me.

 

Last night, I was called upon by our group “leader” to explain what things my wife does that I feel are “disrespectful” to me.  The second question I was asked later in the evening, was “what things my wife could do better in our marriage to support me”. 

 

We have a pretty strong marriage.  But no man could answer these questions even half-honestly without getting into trouble.

 

I also have to admit, that we have been at this church for only a few months.  I barely know these people, so I’m not real comfortable letting them into our lives yet.   My wife, however, is a social butterfly and doesn’t mind at all.  And of course, in a group like this, there is always one or two people who won’t let you off the hook with an easy answer.

 

Needless to say, my answers did not cut the mustard.  Upon answering the second question, my wife chimed in and told everyone that I should share what I really think —and that was OK with her.

 

So I went on to explain  that my wife’s interrupting and correcting me when I speak to people was both disrespectful to me and something she could improve on for the betterment of our marriage. 

 

This was an honest answer, stated as nicely as I could.

 

On our drive home, it was very quiet.  I asked my wife what she was thinking.  Her first statement was: “it bothers me that you think I am disrespecting you, when you need to be corrected.  When you are wrong, I think I should tell you”. 

 

Can you guess where this conversation headed?  I certainly didn’t feel “fireproof” during the following 30 minutes of discussion.

 

 Is it just my ego that I don’t like being corrected by my wife in front of other people? My feeling has been that she can always discuss it with me later. After all, just because someone has a different point of view it doesn’t mean that I’m wrong. Right?

 

To be fair, this is something that I had to work on at the beginning of our marriage.  It went hand-in-hand with trying to “fix everything”.  Sometimes our spouses want us to just listen and be supportive……and not turn into Mr. Fix it.  The same is said about “correcting” them.  My job as Husband is not to “correct my wife”.  The children are a different story, however.

 

So as we launch into the last 2 weeks of these couples evenings, I have to ask myself if it has been helpful or not.  As I said, I got a ton out of the movie.  But the weekly couples meetings ………….not so much. 

 

Regardless, this will soon be over and March 14th is quickly approaching.  This is when I get to spend a full day with my wife at a Couples Seminar located at my old University. 

 

Will somebody please take me out of my misery, and just shoot me………..

 

-Al

 


13 Responses to “Am I Fireproof Yet?”


  1. March 12, 2009 at 7:57 am

    Our church went crazy with the Fireproof movie too. I narrowly escaped the whole thing. Hopefully you can survive without too many more of those obvious traps.

  2. March 12, 2009 at 8:32 am

    I had heard about Fireproof a few weeks ago on another message board and checked it out. Definitely not my cup of tea and I cringe at the thought of any guy being dragged into that mess.

    The bottom line is that you lose. Even if you’re right, you can still be wrong. And if she’s wrong, she can still be right. Women say they want honesty, but they only want honesty if it happens to dovetail with their preconceived notions. Now I don’t know your wife, but I’m willing to bet she’s filed your comments away in the deep dark place women keep their ammunition, and she’ll blast you with it repeatedly in the future.

    But you know what? While some guys advise you to be silent and just go with the flow, I say screw that. If someone asked me that question that you were asked in the group, I’d answer honestly. Sure I’d end up arguing about it with my wife later, but I’m OK with taking those lumps. Because if I just sat back and didn’t answer truthfully even when my wife herself urged me to, I’d just kick myself later.

    So I say job well done. She’s the one who wanted you to go and share, and that’s what you did. Just don’t be prepared to get any credit for it.

  3. March 12, 2009 at 8:59 am

    That’s one of those “damned if you do, and damned if you don’t” moments, for sure.

    And as far as interupting you in front of other people, that’s just not cool. At the very least, she should respect you and wait until you are in private and then make a comment and then it can be discussed in an adult way. Who knows, maybe SHE might be in error. :)

  4. March 12, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I’m right there with you. We had been attending the same event at our church and like you we have only been there a couple of months. My wife and I both decided yesterday that we will just do the study on our own and quit attending the fireproof function at church.

    To be clear, I think the fireproof principles are excellent. I also think it is built for those whose marriages are not good. The church would argue that everyone’s marriage can improve and this is true but a strong marriage doesn’t need this kind of intervention approach and may just make things awkward for a time. I don’t need awkward. Not in a marriage of more than ten years with no trouble.

    Bible based principles around how to keep the marriage strong? Absolutely. Unnecessary interventions. No thank you.

    Man, good luck.

  5. March 13, 2009 at 8:15 am

    Hmm…I always find it odd that we (yes, I’m lumping myself with most women…it never happens) get offended in situations like that. I catch myself doing it and think, “what sense does this make?” I KNOW it doesn’t make sense, but it happens anyway. It must be the wiring. ;)

    More often than not it’s because we were caught in a “my wife is not perfect, let me tell you why…” moment and we get defensive. At least that’s what happens to me.

    ShankRabbit and I decided a long time ago (after a few situations like this) to talk about things one-on-one first. That way we understand what we are both thinking and if brought up in a group setting later on we don’t get defensive.

    Good luck with the rest of the classes!

    (and Happy Fatherhood Friday!)

  6. March 13, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Oh man, there is no way out of those kind of situations. Damn if you do, damned if you don’t. I have learned that sometimes when you’re a husband there is no right answer, and even if there is it’s not your job to point it out.

    Good luck man.

  7. March 13, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    My wife and I had some trouble in our marriage and attended marriage counseling. It was definitely worth it. The couples classes and retreats, on the other had, are tedious. I think it’s better to share my marital issues with my wife rather than with a group of 20 people.

  8. March 13, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    i have not seen the movie fireproof though i have heard of it. if you guys have open communication there is NO need for couples group really. even w the best intentions, those types of groups WANT you to have something wrong with you and/or your relationship.

    my husband always thinks he’s right so i like to point out when he’s wrong. he will try to prove me wrong, too, it usually never works lol good luck. :)

  9. March 14, 2009 at 8:04 am

    I am laughing my ass off! Sounds like you have a perfectly happy and typical marriage. “It’s okay with me” translates into “wait until I get you in the car”!

    Bit the bullet and go to make her happy, you have no other choice. Maybe bring a flask of Vodka to dull the pain.

  10. March 15, 2009 at 7:09 am

    I’ve always had issues with the group thing and maybe it’s just my personality. Groups are meant to be supportive, not to be your doctor… so what good does it do anyone for you to stand up in the middle of a room and tell everyone the sucky things about your wife?! All it does is embarrass you and your wife and gives the “chatty Cathys” something to talk about. There are crappy things and awesome thing about everyone, and I’m sure you love your wife even more for the crappy things.

    I have the same issues you do… I don’t like being corrected by my wife in public. I think it has less to do with the “being right” and more to do with the “my wife isn’t on my side”. In public I need my wife on my team at all times. She doesn’t need to agree with me, but if it comes to correcting me she’ll do it in private.

    Isabella and I came to the same understanding about raising our child too. Ground rule: never override a parent’s decision in front of the kid. This could lead to our child taking sides or realizing there is a disconnect between mom and dad. Not cool in our book.

    Let your wife know that she needs to be your wingman in all situations, not just the ones she thinks your right on.

  11. March 24, 2009 at 8:43 am

    I like how they test your fire-proofedness by throwing you into the fire!

    I take the approach that I’m always wrong. I usually am, anyway, so I just accept the corrections.

  12. May 18, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    I went through this entire series so I feel your pain.


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